Romance Addiction

Hi, through my theraphist and some new reading I have now been made aware that I suffer specifically from Romance Addiction primarily and that my relationshipand sex addictions come as secondary to this.It is not something that I have heard widely discussed at meetings, does anyoneidentify with this specific addiction or have any further insight.Thanks!

Hi, i have been in

Hi, i have been in fellowship since Feburary 08 and although both sex and love addiction was my primary addictions i felt i had more symptoms of the former and not the latter, however having been sober from bottom line sexual behaviour since then and have suffered the rigours of physical withdrawl (colds, fatigue, irritability) realise that my addiction to the emotional payoffs is just as powerful and now find  my compulsion for romance and intrigue is just as real as was my urge to act out physically.  Infact a recent and very brief interlude with a lady i had long been attracted to reminded me of this.  As an observation, she is also a sex and love addict and in the begining she was pursuing me, i was the one who was being cautious, eventually i blurted out my sordid past in what i believe now to be a subconcious attempt to sabotage the relationship/friendship, she responded by distancing herself from the situation and so now she has made herself unavailable, i of course can't stop obssessing about her. Nothing sexual happened between us and to be honest that wasnt my motivation, it was to have the ongoing intrigue and the flirting, to control the situation and  have my ego bolseterd by this beautiful woman wanting me and me being able to keep her at arms length. Once the i burst the bubble by laying too much honesty out, the power shifted and now iam the one who feels like i want to be texting and calling her all the time. Although we had shared that we're both coming out of addictive relationships, it was me who still thought it was a good idea to pursue a relationship, it was her who actually spelt it out and said it's probably not a good idea that we continue...and iam the one with 16 months sobriety!?  I watched a Rom-com the other day and as the credits rolled, i had the urge to call her and lay my feelings out on the line and say,' I know that we have our problems but iam facing my demons and i will be true to you, let's give this a go and see where it takes us, if you say no, no hard feelings but can you honestly say you don't think about what we could have together?'  my higher power said 'Sleep on it, see how you feel in the morning,'   of course by the next morning i was more obsessed with whether i would make any money that day,(just started up a new business) than proclomations of love, God does for me what i cant do for myself.So, Lu, yes Romance addiction is very real to me and iam sure to many more people who are more or less aware of it, you only have listen to societies accepted notions that love is pain and suffering and obsessive and exclusive that it's no wonder we're bought up with a distorted idea of what love actually is and falling in love is nice but it's also extremely unbalancing and unrealistic, you cant be 'fixed' by another if you have little identity of your own or any self worth to begin with, you cant be 'made whole' by another if you don't know who you are yourself but these are widely considered to be normal feelings and human behaviour, watch any romantic comedy or listen to most Adult contemporary music and the message is there again and again, 'I can't live without you' 'You to me are everything', 'If you leave me iam nothing' 'You are my world' ... it's a bit obsessive dont you think? it's little wonder we as a society dont feel we're alive unless we're are in the extreme agony or ecstacy of 'Love' or that we're worth less than dirt if we haven't found our 'Soul Mate'. Society as a whole is the biggest sex and love addict in town and this should be remembered when the temptation to compare oneself with 'normal' people is appealing.The answers are in the steps, if in doubt go back to step one admit your powerless, let and let god, don't act out and listen to your god. Easier said than done sometimes admitidally but as one wise man in fellowship shared with me,'It's the only game in town.' God Bless S. Don't act out and the answers will come.

Wow! My hp must be working

Wow! My hp must be working over time, thank you spender for your identification. I have a different log in now but was lu32 the one who posted the message about romance addiction. Since then I have come into the fellowship and am now working the SLA HOW programme. The reason I say that my hp must be working today is that I was sitting at work a little while ago, feeling horrendous, uttely isolated and pretty much in despair. My bottom lines have been in place for 3 weeks now and all I could think about today was acting out, calling my ex, finding a way to intrigue, basically anything to take me out of this pain. I couldn't call anyone in the fellowship as I am at work so I thought I'd take a look at the website for some inspiration and there was your share re: romance addiction which I posted months ago. I identified completely and most important took real strength from your words of encouragement and support. I am really struggling at the moment, feeling so lonely and to be honest do not trust myself around men when I am like this. I actually don't even think I am safe to go to my meeting tonight such is my desire for intrigue, I think tonight I must go home, pray hard for this to be lifted and start again tomorrow! Having said this, when I get a message like yours it helps so much so I just want to thank you. I really believe that you have saved me from a slip today and on day 19 of my questions I couldn't cope with that! This is a true example of others doing for us what we cannot do for ourselves. God bless you and I hope you find strength to deal with your current situation. My thoughts and extreme gratitude are with you.

Hi Grace,Iam so grateful

Hi Grace,Iam so grateful that my words had such a positive affect on you, it's true there are no coinsidences. I hope you found some serenity and that you haven't slipped today. I don't usually spend much time on this site, i just browse and leave but you have made me realise that taking a few minutes out and sharing my experiences here can have a real positive effect.Iam aware how tenacious this addiction is and i believe it's the most complex to deal with, as i have heard from another members wisdom, there aren't many long term sober people about in this fellowship, to a certain extent freedom from Alcohol, drugs and gambling require one to just 'put down' the offending item (drink, drug, betting slip) as sex and love addiction is so integral to how we relate to each other, how we form relationships of all kinds not just sexual, that to fully successfully recover we must 'put ourselves' down, change the very foundation of what we thought we were and be willing to change our whole lifestyle and many facets of our personality in order to go to any lengths to stay sober and build our new selves. No mean feat and it really does sort out the men fr0m the boys to coin a rather sexist phrase. Progress not perfection is one of my favourite slogans in the fellowship as, for me , sums up the program: One day, or sometimes one minute at a time, don't act out. That's progress, you may not do it willingly, gracefully or easily but as long as you dont act out then you have a chance to build a foundation of sobriety on which your spirit can start to grow stronger, recieve gods love and be able to spread the message to others, without this and with out sobriety then there is no recovery. Thanks again for your kind words and i hope your staying safe. God Bless you  Spender PS if you want to chat in the chat room then let me know, iam online most days.    Don't act out and the answers will come.

Hi Spender, thanks again for

Hi Spender, thanks again for all that you have written so far, it means so much, not just that people take the time to add a comment but that they really do so with kindness, honesty and great insight into this horrible disease. I just wanted to update you, I didn't slip on tuesday although I certainly came close but over the last couple of days seem to have got myself back on track thanks to some fantastic meetings and my amazing sponsor. I too love the phrase progress not perfection as I tend to spend a large amount of time beating myself up about all that I do wrong and never give myself credit for getting through the hard times. I also believe that the hard days are necessary, not just so that we appreciate the good ones but also as a reminder that this stuff is not easy and we really need, on a daily basis, to keep putting in the work. As I am often told you cannot change the behaviour of a life time over night but in typical addict style I want to see changes now and have zero patience! Anyway, just for today everything is peaceful and the desire to act out is not there. I'm off to a meeting shortly so I will sign off and say thank you again. I hope all is going well for you today, have a good sober day! Grace.

Hi Sorry I haven't heard

Hi Sorry I haven't heard this but when I thought about it that kinda made sence. When you think of the chemicles that are released in the brain when we are really into someone that gives me the same high I get from the sexual side. Often it's the lead up to sex that is more enjoyable than the act, the antisipation. Perhaps the romantic chemicles do the same??

Thanks Sharon, I think you

Thanks Sharon, I think you are absolutely right. I have been meaning to posta response to your earlier comments, how are you getting on with Step 1, is it becoming clearer now? Happy to help with it by discussing how it was for me ifyou are still struggling with it? Its really hard to accept for sure but once you doget it and move on to steps 2&3 its quite a relief L.

Thanks L :) Yes I think

Thanks L :) Yes I think steps 1 & 2 have were quite hard. I am working on making an inventory. It's hare because that's what I stuggle with. It's were having the group etc will help. Like most people I guess it's easy to lie to ourselves if no one is challenging us. I've found it hard getting to this point. I think that once you realise you have a problem it can be easier just to make excuses why we shouldn't change. Do you attend a group? S 

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